tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1507068576835170746.post8598151455084270378..comments2011-10-09T21:31:42.358-04:00Comments on New York City Animals: NEW YORK CITY DECLARES WAR ON CATSUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1507068576835170746.post-69051798133864136672011-09-03T21:04:46.644-04:002011-09-03T21:04:46.644-04:00So clearly, "Al" is not a cat person. Pe...So clearly, "Al" is not a cat person. Perhaps instead of sprouting figures, showing off your maths skills and telling us why TNR doesn't work, you could suggest a few ways in which to help?<br />You are also forgetting the unfortunate fact that many of those kittens will not live long enough to reproduce as without vet care or a warm home to live in with food on tap, they will either become to sick or manourished and die. Or in fact become hypothermic and die of that. So (as is true in my country which would surely be true as a principle everywhere) that only half of those born (if that) will survive. I don't like to admit it but it's a fact. In many cases, only 1 or 2 from a litter will live to early adulthood. There are also predators like dogs and even cars that these animals may fall victim too. Then there is the competition for food resources where many will not get enough food to survive. Survival of the fittest isn't a load of B.S!<br />So as a ballpark figure, only 25% or 30% of the new animals added to the population every year will survive. Agreed, this is still an increase which is why the TNR program needs to be far more aggressive than it is to be more effective.<br />In many cases TNR does work but it needs to be instigated in such a way that entire colonies are being steralised at once. Once a colony is located, there are more often than not, groups of volunteers that feed them so the animals are not hunting native species. Of course, no stray or feral animals is always the preferred option but this means that a very aggressive approach must be taken and all done within a winter season when the animals are not mating/ producing as much. This system can work but it needs some direct, fast attention.<br />I would also help if people who are irresponsible and don't get their pets desexed in the first place, didn't go and turf their unwanted pet into a colony! Cats are not disposable! People need to realise this and turn them over to another home or someone who can help if they don't want them anymore!<br />And by the way, rodents are NOT attracted to cat urine. Rodents are prey animals and knowing that a predator like a cat is around will mean they turn tail and run the other way! Would you hang around if you found evidence that a predator likely to eat you was close by??<br />Ok Al, you have the floor...Stephluuuvscats!https://www.blogger.com/profile/13192049477287491728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1507068576835170746.post-24880592115028041292011-09-03T11:16:50.875-04:002011-09-03T11:16:50.875-04:00Al: impressive statistics, but IF the NYC administ...Al: impressive statistics, but IF the NYC administration provided adequate funding for TNR programs in NYC, the problem would be more under control. And having followed the lists of cats being killed in the ACC shelters there for the last few months on FB, I'd wager a fair proportion weren't feral cats at all. How any city purporting to be civilised can allow its government to finance care and control operations so poorly is beyond me; NYC spends roughly a quarter of your nation's average for such operations per animal per day. Take the cats out, and rat infestation will balloon, too. Nice state of affairs for the 21st century, but maybe not surprising if 17th century attitudes towards felines prevails.Honore Minouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124787815580203167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1507068576835170746.post-56522586294828331522011-09-03T08:54:25.391-04:002011-09-03T08:54:25.391-04:00Thank you for this important information! is there...Thank you for this important information! is there a way to support you from Germany, where Ilive? Pleaee heplthe kitties!!!Vivihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05719729797508695533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1507068576835170746.post-88766713882688784912011-09-02T21:05:39.582-04:002011-09-02T21:05:39.582-04:00http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2027347/...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2027347/Black-Death-backtrack-Dont-blame-rats-plague-spread-PEOPLE.htmlBob Pomillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03361162056728397341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1507068576835170746.post-78026825043502879112011-09-02T20:37:15.031-04:002011-09-02T20:37:15.031-04:00Here's a fun read to PROVE how effective TNR p...Here's a fun read to PROVE how effective TNR programs are.<br /><br />"In NYC there are currently 465 registered TNR colonies. When TNR began in these colonies, 6047 cats were present – today, there are 4523 cats present, a decline of approximately 25 percent." (Quoted from an Alley Cat Allies member who was SO proud of this.)<br /><br />Of those 6,047 cats they've only REDUCED the total by 1,524 cats, about 127 PER YEAR. That's only 0.08% of the 1,806,310 feral-cats within the city's limits. (data taken direct from TNR-advocates' own resources)<br /><br />Guess how many have been born IN JUST THE LAST 6 MONTHS (hoping like hell that they're not breeding every 4 months). Let's do the math...<br /><br />(1/2 total = females) 903,155 X 5 (avg. number in a litter) = 4,515,775 NEW CATS. Which lowers the number of them that have been reduced by TNR idiots to only 0.03%. THEY ARE GOING BACKWARD!<br /><br />Guess how many will be born in another 6 months? (4,515,775 / 2) X 5 = 11,289,438.<br /><br />Remember. the first 903,155 females are still breeding. For another 4,515,775. Add in the pre-existing 1,806,310, bringing the grand total in just ONE YEAR to 17,611,523 CATS. NEARLY EIGHTEEN MILLION. Which means that TNR groups have only reduced the cat-population by 0.008% of them. That's not even ONE-ONE-HUNDRETH of ONE-PERCENT.<br /><br />1,806,310 cats become nearly EIGHTEEN MILLION CATS ... IN JUST *ONE* YEAR. Keep in mind too, these are the numbers in JUST ONE CITY.<br /><br />Catching on yet to how TNR people are just spinning wheels in the sand and accomplishing NOTHING?<br /><br />Well, they are managing to torture cats and torture or starve-to-death all native wildlife, annihilating the whole native food-chain with an INVASIVE-SPECIES, and spreading deadly or lifelong illnesses to all manner of animals and even humans while doing all this. I guess that's accomplishing something. Including even spreading the plague today.<br /><br />http://outbreaknews.com/2011/07/29/colorado-stray-cat-tests-positive-plague/<br />http://www.pagosasun.com/archives/2011/07July/072811/webplague.html<br /><br />So much for that oft spewed urban myth that cats would have saved everyone from the plague in Europe. If the cats infect the rodents with Toxoplasma gondii, then cats even attract the plague right to your door since the toxo-infected rodents are now attracted to cat-urine. Cats would have only made the plague even more intensive and an even larger disaster. As they will this time around.Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15991204339785850428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1507068576835170746.post-821218210787326722011-09-02T20:11:06.329-04:002011-09-02T20:11:06.329-04:00Anthony, that's an excellent idea, but please ...Anthony, that's an excellent idea, but please be sure to communicate your intentions to the mayor and city council speaker. They might actually take notice if tourists were to pledge to withhold their travel dollars from NYC until there are positive changes to how NYC animals are treated.ceglunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11155785992005832521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1507068576835170746.post-8515110837006381452011-09-02T19:07:25.192-04:002011-09-02T19:07:25.192-04:00Sounds like I won't be patronizing any establi...Sounds like I won't be patronizing any establishment around NYC for a while. I'll spend my money elsewhere.Anthony Trotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03780547630655661101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1507068576835170746.post-43226467386082079562011-09-02T16:12:41.496-04:002011-09-02T16:12:41.496-04:00New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, has...New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, has proven to be so detrimental to animals, in her years as leader of the council, that eight years of a Quinn mayoralty, would most certainly prove to be a nightmare. All the pro animal bills she has blocked, such as "Pet's in Housing", the rodeo bill, the sprinkler bill, humane education, the carriage horse bill, et all, while allowing to pass only the most fraudulent of "pro" animal bills, such as the unenforceable tethering bill, make her anathema to those of us who care about New York City's animals. Her horrid record on human rights, sellout of the LGBT community and her slush fund scandal, that Mayor Bloomberg has seem to forgotten about, further disqualify Quinn from the Mayor's office. We must ignore the pied piper call of supposed pro animal types such as ASPCA President, Ed Sayres and the self-interested real estate, developer, Steve Nislick who urge us to support Quinn and her destructive to the animals, Intro 0655. We must speak out forcefully and often against this Intro and of paramount importance, work together to see that this woman does not attain Gracie Mansion, in 2013.Bob Pomillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03361162056728397341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1507068576835170746.post-11889073662409176602011-09-02T15:27:20.037-04:002011-09-02T15:27:20.037-04:00Christine Quinn needs to keep her paws off our wil...Christine Quinn needs to keep her paws off our wildlife. These animals have as much right to roam the city or anywhere for that matter... as much as we do. She needs to fine people for letting their animals out or go for lack of wanting to care for them. These animals have a right to live and who the hell are we to say or do any different.waitekimberelyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11296500736941529738noreply@blogger.com